"Not the woman's right to choose death..." -Keyes

"I would say that it is not the woman's right to choose death for anyone." In regards to abortion, she opposes Kepner's belief in pro-choice. In her opinion life does not start at birth, but earlier, and the mother does not have the right to kill an unborn baby. Carolyn stands by her belief that nobody has the right to chose death for someone else. She says that her religious beliefs do play a roll in this, but that is not the sole reason, it is her personal belief. In cases where women are raped and become pregnant she says that they have the right to have an abortion, showing that she does not necessarily stand firm on her original statement. She remains confident, opposing Kepner. Kepner indirectly hints that Keyes is "wishy-washy" on her beliefs when it comes to abortion. This after Keyes says that it, again, "should be a case to case basis," as she is not a doctor. Moving on to other issues, both Kepner and Keyes are accused of flip flopping on their opinions from  Kyle Zollo.